Primals: Info and How-to
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Bowl of Embers
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Bowl of Embers (Hard)
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Class & Level Requirements
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Disciples of War and Magic,
level 25 and above |
Disciples of War and Magic,
level 45 and above |
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Required Party Size
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4 Members
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8 Members
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Member Requirements
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All members must have either
completed the quest "It Kills with Fire" or have gained access to the Bowl of Embers via the same quest. |
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Time Limit
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30 minutes
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30 minutes
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Entry Quest Name
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It Kills with Fire (Limsa Lominsa)
It Kills with Fire (Gridania) It Kills with Fire (Ul'dah) |
Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It
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Quest Requirements
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Attained Grand Company Rank
Private Third Class or higher |
Completed "It Kills with Fire"
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"Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It" is the only Primal battle that offers the weapon rewards.
Doing either battle with members of the same company give better rewards, although I don't know what they are or how significant they are.
Quest given by an NPC in Gridania located here . There are NMs you must kill before you can face Ifrit however. Complete walkthrough courtesy of Eorzepedia.
"Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It" requires you to obtain 5 tapers from Zahar'ak beastmen and trade them into the same man who lets you enter The Bowl of Embers (r25) for an Inferno Lamp. You can do Ifrit without the quest, but will not have the chance to obtain a weapon or gain experience. Guide Map to R50 Ifrit
1.20 Changes (that I'm aware of)
Combos: Yes, but be careful when he turns red as his skills will start coming quicker. After Hellfire I generally advise no combos, the exception possibly being THM since Thundara is insta-cast (almost).
Buffs: Before Hellfire, make sure you at least have sentinel up; try to {Gather together.} for a Sacred Prism => Sanguine Rite / Stoneskin as well; both of these will greatly reduce the damage.
Protip: Set up a chat log with "Successful action by enemies" ONLY. The text will show up right before the animation, giving you a heads up and a clear indication of when each skill is coming.
Protips' Ifrit Thesis
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| Class & Level Requirements | Disciples of War & Magic, Level 45 or above |
| Required Party Size | 8 Members |
| Time Limit | 30 minutes |
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Wait Until Retry
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15 minutes |
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Wait Until Retry
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5 minutes |
| Quest Name | A Feast of Fools |
| Quest Requirements | Complete “It Kills with Fire” |
My kill order for 1st phase: BLM, WHM, BRD, MRD, THF, ARC (so if BLM or WHM pops, I shift attention to them. Otherwise, kill as appears)
When they all respawn you need to {Gather together.}:
THM: Sacred Prism -> Sanguine Rite
GLD: Rampart
CON: Sacred Prism -> Stoneskin and then start casting Curaga (after Sentinel)
All: Sentinel
All: Sacred Prism -> Cure after Memento hits
This should work out to where no one dies. Predetermine a spot to gather beforehand!
Kill order for 2nd phase (from the other guide posted below): BRD, GLD, BLM, WHM, ARC, THF, King, MRD
GLD keep hate on MRD (and King if you can) and kite to prevent AoE. Then, pewpew and survive.
Disclaimer: I haven't won Moogle yet, but this is what my PT usually ends up doing lol.
JP PGL Moogle Guide
SeeD's Moogle Guide
And ANOTHER Moogle Strat *With Animated GIFs!*
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